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Numbers Carried
Company Number Date From
London, Midland & Scottish Railway 4885 m/e 07/1945
British Railways 44885 w/e 04/06/1949

Locomotive Specifics
Designer W. Stanier
Class 5MT
Company History LMS
Rebuild History
ClassFrom
Black Five07/1945
Wheels 4-6-0
Builder Crewe Works
Order Number 174
To Service During 07/1945
Withdrawal Thu 26/12/1963
Service Life 18 yrs, 5 mths , 26 dys

Disposal
Scrapping During 04/1964

Allocations
Code Subsequent Codes Name From Date
    (New) m/e 07/1945
29A   Perth South on 01/01/1948 (Snapshot)
68B   Dumfries 4w/e 04/06/1960
     Withdrawn on 26/12/1963

SLS Allocations*
Type Code Name From Date
EXLOAN UNK   4w/e 10/11/1945
ALLOC 63B Fort William 4w/e 04/06/1960
WDN   on 26/12/1963

* Stephenson Locomotive Society data - raw and not yet cross-referenced

Mentions ...
Report Date Title Report Source
31/10/1945 Manchester (London Road) Station Interesting locos seen during October included: 2573 10C, 4848 20A, 4076 2C, 4885 12A, 4901 12A, 4904, 5168 30A, 5284 19E SLS/194601
05/06/1949 St. Rollox Works Locomotives entering Works 9/5 to 5/6: These included Nos. 177, 640, 40644, 902/07, 2270, 2919, 43996, 4882, 45023/29/84/85, 45100/21/25/54/58/59, 5175/76, 45179, 45358, 5497, 45576/81, 45693, 45730, 54453, 14634, 15132/93, 16323, 17259, 57332/52, 17355/63, 57453, 17455, 17555/72, 17600/05/07/30/35. Another '60' class locomotive-No. 54640-has been lined out and was ex Works on 28/5, the '4P' classification is still carried, but a new shed plate-66B-has been fitted. No. 14397 Ben Y Gloe (Withdrawn W/E 5/2/49) arrived 'dead' at St. Rollox shed in a very delapidated condition from Perth on 21/4, and was still there on 12/5, but has subsequently been sent to Kilmarnock Works for cutting up. It was noted that the boiler was fitted with Ramsbottom valves on the firebox. The Works' shunter, No. 56025, has been fitted with the whistle from the ex L.N.W.R. railcar No. R29988, recently withdrawn. This is some-what more distinctive in these parts. An interesting point about the lining of the tender of No. 42741 is that the R.H. side has the lining following the contour of the side plates and crossing the horizontal beading, whilst the L.H. side has rectangular lining, the upper line running below the beading. The former style appeared on a number of St. Rollox painted Midland-style tenders, but the latter, as used by other Works, has since been adhered to. St. Rollox tend to use larger numbers on standard locomotives than do the English Works. No. 44885 has been fitted here with a boiler (No. 13049) having the forward top feed position, but with the taper only on the rear ring of the barrel. The original top feed casing has been used, with a small extension welded on the top. Other Class '5's' of the older varieties have been fitted with similar new or modified boilers at Crewe. SLS/194907

Summary
Date Event Details Source See Also
07/1945 To Service To service as London, Midland & Scottish Railway Number 4885
Built at Crewe Works
   
01/01/1948 Allocation Allocation Snapshot - Perth South (29A)    
04/06/1949 Renumbered Renumbered to 44885    
04/06/1960 Allocation Reallocated to Dumfries (68B)    
26/12/1963 Withdrawn Condemned as 44885    
04/1964 Scrapped Scrapped    

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