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Numbers Carried
Company Number Date From
London, Midland & Scottish Railway 5023 m/e 08/1934
British Railways 45023 w/e 23/10/1948

Locomotive Specifics
Designer W. Stanier
Class 5MT
Company History LMS
Rebuild History
ClassFrom
Black Five08/1934
Wheels 4-6-0
Builder Vulcan Foundry
Order Number No Order ID issued
Works Number 4568
To Service During 08/1934
Withdrawal Mon 16/09/1963
Service Life 29 yrs, 1 mth , 16 dys

Disposal
Scrapping During 02/1964

Allocations
Code Subsequent Codes Name From Date
    (New) m/e 08/1934
12A   Carlisle Kingmoor on 01/01/1948 (Snapshot)
66A   Polmadie 5w/e 24/03/1951
66A   Polmadie m/e 31/03/1951
64C   Dalry Road 4w/e 06/10/1951
     Withdrawn on 16/09/1963

SLS Allocations*
Type Code Name From Date
ALLOC 66A Polmadie m/e 31/03/1951
ALLOC 64C Dalry Road 4w/e 06/10/1951
WDN   on 16/09/1963

* Stephenson Locomotive Society data - raw and not yet cross-referenced

Mentions ...
Report Date Title Report Source
05/06/1949 St. Rollox Works Locomotives entering Works 9/5 to 5/6: These included Nos. 177, 640, 40644, 902/07, 2270, 2919, 43996, 4882, 45023/29/84/85, 45100/21/25/54/58/59, 5175/76, 45179, 45358, 5497, 45576/81, 45693, 45730, 54453, 14634, 15132/93, 16323, 17259, 57332/52, 17355/63, 57453, 17455, 17555/72, 17600/05/07/30/35. Another '60' class locomotive-No. 54640-has been lined out and was ex Works on 28/5, the '4P' classification is still carried, but a new shed plate-66B-has been fitted. No. 14397 Ben Y Gloe (Withdrawn W/E 5/2/49) arrived 'dead' at St. Rollox shed in a very delapidated condition from Perth on 21/4, and was still there on 12/5, but has subsequently been sent to Kilmarnock Works for cutting up. It was noted that the boiler was fitted with Ramsbottom valves on the firebox. The Works' shunter, No. 56025, has been fitted with the whistle from the ex L.N.W.R. railcar No. R29988, recently withdrawn. This is some-what more distinctive in these parts. An interesting point about the lining of the tender of No. 42741 is that the R.H. side has the lining following the contour of the side plates and crossing the horizontal beading, whilst the L.H. side has rectangular lining, the upper line running below the beading. The former style appeared on a number of St. Rollox painted Midland-style tenders, but the latter, as used by other Works, has since been adhered to. St. Rollox tend to use larger numbers on standard locomotives than do the English Works. No. 44885 has been fitted here with a boiler (No. 13049) having the forward top feed position, but with the taper only on the rear ring of the barrel. The original top feed casing has been used, with a small extension welded on the top. Other Class '5's' of the older varieties have been fitted with similar new or modified boilers at Crewe. SLS/194907
30/04/1950 St. Rollox Works Locomotives entering Works during April: These included Nos. 153, 40598, 615, 40647, 41092, 42205/06, 42421, 42908, 44283, 44702/03/84/96, 4923, 44931/59/74/79/91, 45009/22/23, 45159/73, 45251, 45362, 45456/62, 45714/27, 54440, 55139, 15168, 15352, 16154, 16250/80, 16307, 56335, 16350, 17253, 57463, 57955. SLS/195006
30/08/1961 St. Rollox Works (Erecting Shop) Erecting Shop: D3005, D3206/78, D3913, D5314/6/7, D6116, 42059, 44877, 44976, 45011/23/49, 45245, 45360, 45679/91. Paint Shop: 44703. Outside Paint Shop: 42805, 45366, 45677. Works Yard: D5309, 44721, 45018, 57617, 57658. Works Shunter: D3342. SLS/196110

Summary
Date Event Details Source See Also
08/1934 To Service To service as London, Midland & Scottish Railway Number 5023
Built at Vulcan Foundry, Works Number 4568
   
01/01/1948 Allocation Allocation Snapshot - Carlisle Kingmoor (12A)    
23/10/1948 Renumbered Renumbered to 45023    
24/03/1951 Allocation Reallocated to Polmadie (66A)    
31/03/1951 Allocation Reallocated to Polmadie (66A)    
06/10/1951 Allocation Reallocated to Dalry Road (64C)    
16/09/1963 Withdrawn Condemned as 45023    
02/1964 Scrapped Scrapped    

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